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My experience with the dept manager gentlemen was at the Carpenterville store but I went to another store to just talk with a dept manager to see if the tale of horror I got was of that store only or of all menard stores and I was told the same thing avoid any management position at menards ungodly hours , poor staffing in dept which puts more on dept managers and their treatment becomes that of slavery and you will be sorry for this position.I also was just awed at the hours managers work 10 to 12 hours per day with sometimes no brakes and if a no show or illness you really get the hammer and humiliation in front of employees. A manager leaves from work at 11;00 p.m after 10 to 12 hours of work is required to return to work at 6;30 a.m. the next morning . People should know why you get the poor customer service at their stores the employees are a reflection of how they are treated and it is to bad people in need of jobs have to suffer the inhuman treatment of businesses like menard just to earn a pay check. I hope someone reads this and investigate menard treatment of employees especially dept managers . The gentlemen I met that evening deserves a medal and because he has a family and needs his job so bad he is in no position to say much or do much . I however as a past customer can say and make america aware of this inhuman treatment of menard employees managers.